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SpiderX22
11-24-2007, 12:26 PM
This is a discussion thread for the following file:<br><br><b><a href=http://www.gearthhacks.com/dlfile27863/The-Knock-Nevis.htm>The Knock Nevis</a></b><br><br>Large tanker in Qatar<br><br><img src=http://www.gearthhacks.com/images/new/080505/4842761.jpg>

SpiderX22
11-24-2007, 12:27 PM
No way..it's not even close to being long enough to be the Knock Nevis..this isn't even 1000 feet long, the Knock Nevis is 1504 feet long.

Admin note: changed title of file.

sladys
11-24-2007, 03:37 PM
It's a LNG-tanker. LNG=Liquid Natural Gas.

I found an image of this tanker.
http://www.northcoastjournal.com/110603/cover1106-tanker.jpg

BTW, the Knock Nevis is an ordinary super tanker.

http://www.ayrshirescotland.com/ships/070jahre.html

Captain Hornblower
11-24-2007, 04:21 PM
Indeed, this is definitely not the Knock Nevis. I haven't checked that file properly enough.

This is a pic of the Knock Nevis, found at Wikipedia:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/da/Knock_Nevis.jpg/250px-Knock_Nevis.jpg

Poomuckl
11-24-2007, 07:23 PM
Since the Knock Nevis is used offshore as floating storage unit at an oil field in the persion gulf, it's not very likely to be visible on GE.

I found a mark with its former name Jahre Viking right in the middle between Quatar and Iran (2635'24.00"N 5201'57.00"E). But there is the sea and it's nothing visible except blue colour. I guess it's not the real position because of the clean coordinates. Looks more like someone thought it would be funny to make a mark there because nearly nobody can proof it's wrong.

sladys
11-24-2007, 11:31 PM
Spider once found it, according to GEC, on the way to repair in Dubai in 2004.

It's now moved to Outdated Items but here is his find:

http://www.gearthhacks.com/dlfile18635/1100-Foot-Super-Tanker.htm

McMaster_de
11-25-2007, 10:19 PM
Spider once found it, according to GEC, on the way to repair in Dubai in 2004.

It's now moved to Outdated Items but here is his find:

http://www.gearthhacks.com/dlfile18635/1100-Foot-Super-Tanker.htm

How can a 1100 feet tanker be the 1504 feet Knock Nevis?

SpiderX22
11-25-2007, 10:56 PM
Was wondering that too. =)
Longest ship I ever found was this 1375 foot beast (http://www.gearthhacks.com/dlfile25820/Longest-Ship-in-Google-Earth---1375-feet.htm) which has since changed..

Poomuckl
11-25-2007, 11:14 PM
I think the smaller ship was meant to be the Knock Nevis before reconstruction in 2004 when its name was Jahre Viking.

GE offers time travel ;)
The ship could be visible several times, with different names and different sizes. Depending on which parallel universe you are watching (or simply on the pic date).

McMaster_de
11-26-2007, 04:58 AM
The reconstruction hasn't anything to do with the enlargement of the ship. It was reconstructed after the she was hit in the Iraq-Iran-War and burned out. They only enlargement of the size was made at the construction of the vessel, when the orignal owner gone bankrupt and a new one gets the ship.

http://www.ayrshirescotland.com/ships/jahre.html

Poomuckl
11-26-2007, 09:02 PM
The enlargement is one of the reconstructions the ship got.
Sure, it got more than one but only once it became the targest ship in the world in 2004 and the name Knock Nevis :D

sladys
11-27-2007, 06:33 PM
How can a 1100 feet tanker be the 1504 feet Knock Nevis?

You are right. I wasn't aware of the length in the GEC info and Spiders file. I was only looking at the image and the Knock Nevis mark in GE.

WannabeeGBG
09-07-2009, 05:40 AM
The enlargement is one of the reconstructions the ship got.
Sure, it got more than one but only once it became the targest ship in the world in 2004 and the name Knock Nevis :D

Just to put a very old thread to life. I know two things.

1. The lengthening of Knock Nevis (ex. Jahre Viking, ex. Happy Giant, ex. Seawise Giant) took place in 1980 @ Tsu Shipyard in Japan.

2. The ordinary position for her is at:
Latitude: N 2635.623'
Longitude: E 5202.128'

However recently she is moved to an anchor place near and instead TI Oceania is anchored in her position.

Munden
09-07-2009, 04:21 PM
When I saw that they'd added an ocean tile in the Al Shaheen oil field, I'd wondered it they were specifically trying to capture the Knock Nevis in images. The ship was clearly the wrong size and all, so it's good to know its actual name.

Maybe once folks know where the Knock Nevis is currently at anchor we'll get another new tile. heh, or maybe they'll just grab an older tile before they swapped it. :)

SpiderX22
09-07-2009, 08:40 PM
2. The ordinary position for her is at:
Latitude: N 2635.623'
Longitude: E 5202.128'

However recently she is moved to an anchor place near and instead TI Oceania is anchored in her position.

Let's take a look at that ocean tile. Turn on the timeslider and jump one image back (to remove the ocean trimming). You say you see the TI Oceania? The TI class supertanker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TI_class_supertankers) is 1,245 feet (379m) long.

Get out your ruler. Now measure the ship. The ruler isn't perfectly accurate, but it reads ~1,170 feet. That's nowhere near the size of a TI class supertanker. Besides, the shape of the ship on GE is wrong. Take a look at the Oceania (picture-overhead (http://www.modelshipmaster.com/products/ocean_liners/TI_EUROPE.jpg), picture-side (http://files.myopera.com/castus2/albums/834721/TI_Oceania.jpg)) and compare both the helicopter landing spots and the rear parts of the ships.


The TI Oceania, or any TI-class she is not, but what she is, I do not know.

chairface
11-01-2009, 12:21 PM
marinetraffic.com puts the Knock Nevis at 26.54768 N 56.4925 E

Joo.Lawrence
02-28-2010, 08:37 AM
This appears to be the same width as the former Knock Nevis. The length is approximately half of the pre-scrapped length. Could this be all that remains? It was estimated to take a year for the scrapping process. The conning tower location also seems to be a match.

Knock Nevis in Google Maps?

http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=21.41...z=17&t=h&hl=en

Compare: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Vm43_ifLSS...ock-nevis3.jpg

Munden
02-28-2010, 02:07 PM
Your Google Maps link was just the default URL. In order to properly link to a location you need to use the 'Link' command on the far right in the blue line just above the buttons inside the map window. Clicking it opens up a small window with the full link to the map you're looking at.

If the link is to the Alang ship breaking beach, it's highly unlikely to be the Knock Nevis. The image is from very early in 2009 and the ship was only scheduled to arrive at the beach in 2010.

Joo.Lawrence
02-28-2010, 08:39 PM
Thank you for making me aware that the link does not work.

Let's try it again...

http://maps.google.com/maps?t=h&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=21.417824,72.20797&spn=0.004535,0.010568&z=17

Munden
02-28-2010, 09:46 PM
ah, that one did work. Well, as noted the earliest imagery is from 2009 when the ship isn't even allowed to pull onto the beach yet. (the last report I can see is that it was still waiting for clearance on Dec 19, 2009)

The imagery you've pointed at is a little more to the north and is an even older image from 2004. It's definitely not the Knock Nevis. We'll just have to keep an eye out for any updates Google has for the area this year. Hopefully we'll get that update and be able to see it!