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GEHFileBot
09-23-2005, 11:11 PM
This is a discussion thread for the following file:<br><br><b><a href=http://www.googleearthhacks.com/dlfile8284/Long-train-near-Nisku,-AB-Canada.htm>Long train near Nisku, AB Canada</a></b><br><br>I bumped into this train with container wagons by accident near Nisku, AB, Canada. I measured this train and it looks like it is almost 2 kilometres long (about 1950 meters). There's got to be more trains as long as or longer (2km+) than this one in GE.<br><br><img src=http://www.googleearthhacks.com/images/new/080505/253185Clipboard45.jpg>

evrooije
09-23-2005, 11:15 PM
Any bigger trains, anyone? Come on! 2 km? Any bigger!? :cool:

kdt
01-19-2006, 07:19 PM
1.74 K train also in Canada - Winnipeg

There must be longer ones out there.

Also placemarks to three of Winnipeg's rail yards.

Fraoch
02-07-2006, 06:50 PM
The original train referenced here measures out to 6416 feet.

But they regularly run trains 10 000 - 12 000 feet.

Incidentally, this is CP (Canadian Pacific), judging by the red colour of the locomotives. CN (Canadian National) would be black, except for the nose.

rayzor810
03-22-2006, 08:10 PM
here's a couple more.

Fraoch
03-23-2006, 03:21 PM
here's a couple more.

Interesting. The first one appears to be an empty unit coal train. These trains are almost never broken up and transport coal from a mine to a powerplant.

Note there's a pusher locomotive on the back of this one. The lead locomotive is controlling it remotely. The locomotives are built by GE, likely AC4400CW or Dash 9-44CW models, 4400 horsepower.

The second placemark appears to be a loaded unit coal train. Note the difference in appearance between these cars and the empty ones two tracks to the east. You can see the internal bracing on the empty cars. The location appears to be a limestone or aggregate quarry due to the light colour of the substance to the west. However, the train is clearly not loaded with that light substance. I couldn't find a loading structure, but the cut of cars sitting to the east are probably waiting to be loaded somehow.

It's probably not a coincidence that these are both unit coal trains. With this commodity, speed is secondary to volume, so they run the longest trains physically possible.

rayzor810
03-23-2006, 03:58 PM
you sure are into your trains fraoch!!

Fraoch
03-23-2006, 05:27 PM
you sure are into your trains fraoch!!

;)

I'm pretty sure I can identify the railroad on that second link, or at least the 3rd engine, but that would seem like too much.

rayzor810
03-23-2006, 08:34 PM
here we go then... this train seems to be made up of 60+ identical cars/locos... travelling north west?

Fraoch
03-23-2006, 08:43 PM
here we go then... this train seems to be made up of 60+ identical cars/locos... travelling north west?

That's not a train, there are no locomotives. It's just a cut of cars.

They appear to be covered hoppers, with one long hatch down the centre of the roof (this is called a "trough hatch"). Such cars are used for dry powdered commodities, most commonly grain. Large amounts of these cars are needed for the grain harvest, and they are stored on various trackage for the rest of the year.

I suspect the cars are just being stored. The track looks disused - if you look to the northwest on the highway overpass and beyond it, you see odd shadows across the tracks which could be pulled-up ties.

rayzor810
03-23-2006, 08:49 PM
well that explains why i couldn't work out how and where it was moving! nice one.

rayzor810
04-03-2006, 07:41 PM
see title... also 2km up the track... ??

Fraoch
04-03-2006, 08:00 PM
Cool - that's a shot of a train being unloaded. Looks like gravel or something?

Open hopper cars are unloded from underneath. There's a pit with a conveyor starting underneath. The conveyor is directed to one of several piles with a section of conveyor than can be moved.

There's a small machine inside the car - probably some sort of rake-like device to push material to the hopper holes. It should also vibrate the car to get everything out.

2 km up the line is what appears to be an empty continuous welded rail (CWR) train. These hold rail that's welded into sections the entire length of that train, which are then welded together to make seamless rail. Note the bulkheads on each car, which are really racks with rollers so the rail can be unloded from the rear of the train in one long strip. There's a yellow piece of machinery mid-train just to the northwest of the highway overpass edge. The yellow power units at the front end (northwest) aren't really locomotives, they are specialized pieces of track-laying machinery that just happen to be able to move the train, albeit very slowly.

See here:

http://showroom.creative.co.at/en/u_about/einzelloesung_systemloesung.htm

rayzor810
04-05-2006, 03:06 PM
what are the middle 9 cars of this train?

Fraoch
04-05-2006, 03:42 PM
what are the middle 9 cars of this train?

It's hard to tell, it's so hazy.

They look like empty open hoppers. The horizontal lines you're seeing are the internal braces.

rayzor810
04-22-2006, 08:08 AM
Multi coloured train...

Fraoch
04-22-2006, 04:21 PM
Multi coloured train...

Looks like doublestacked containers. Notice the long platforms on the ends of each car.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:DTTX_724681_20050529_IL_Rochelle.jpg