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    It's the Minas Gerais.

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    Well if that is, then this isn't, because they are different.


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    It's not the Clemenceau. That ship never made it to India on its trip. I don't know if it made the trip through the Suez or not, but the stories do say it never entered Indian territorial waters.

    The most solid pointer, honestly, is the date of the Digital Globe image. It makes it entirely clear that this is the Vengeance / Minas Gerais in the process of being beached.

    I'm not sure where you have that length because I've never seen that listed unless that was the original length when constructed and it was lengthened later in its service. Look at this one:

    http://www.hms-vengeance.co.uk/technica.htm
    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0517-06.htm

    For what it's worth, I don't see the problem with any of the photographs either.

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    Well if you look at the front edge on my photo, on the left as you look at it, the side is shaped. It goes in a bit, then comes out around the bridge. The carrier on GE has a straight side, no curves.




    The bridges are different too, and the comms towers.

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    Last edited by McMaster_de; 09-26-2007 at 03:05 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBob View Post
    Well if you look at the front edge on my photo, on the left as you look at it, the side is shaped. It goes in a bit, then comes out around the bridge. The carrier on GE has a straight side, no curves.

    The bridges are different too, and the comms towers.
    But you can see the markings for the helicopters, the one catapult on port side, the two elevators for the aircrafts. Everything is the same as on the GE pic.
    And by the way you can see the Clemenceau in Toulon.
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    Here is a photo of the Clemenceau. You see it has another look on the deck.


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    I'm not claiming it was the Cemenceau, that was a different size and was still in the Med in 2004.

    I'm just saying the two pics, show different ships, and both claim to be the Vengeance.

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    Every picture here shows the Minas Gerais and take a look at the brasilian site.

    Here is another brasilian site with many pictures: http://br.geocities.com/mgportaavioes/brasilminas.htm
    Last edited by McMaster_de; 09-26-2007 at 03:21 PM.
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