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    Having been a watch of BBC for many long years thanks to PBS here in the States, I'm well-familiar with Eurovision. For those that aren't, it's a pop music competition. Each country chooses a band, usually through smaller voting competitions, to send to the main competition. It's 'pop' music in the truest form. I don't know for sure, but it seems that since Lordi (monster metal band) won 2 years ago, there's been a wider range of song styles.

    Maybe it's my imagination. It seemed like mostly it was either pop, pop-dance, or just bizarre previously.

    The BBC website just ran a story that got me looking through the acts and now the blasted Latvian pirate dance song is STUCK IN MY HEAD. I swear I've been listening to this thing for two hours straight now, and whenever I change songs I am STILL SINGING IT.

    The Eurovision site has small videos of the songs, but often you can also find larger versions on YouTube.

    Here's the participant list by country:
    http://www.eurovision.tv/page/participants-2008

    Latvia - pirate dance song, I find it fun
    Iceland - well-produced dance song, and the video is funny
    Ireland - a joke song that seems to have gone farther than they thought. It's performed by a turkey puppet.
    Turkey - a straight-up rock song that's pretty good.
    Portugal - serious 'diva' song
    Serbia - another serious 'diva' song
    Estonia - another 'joke' song. Leto Svet means "Summer Light" but the song is apparently more like someone reading a grocery list. (as noted by the dancers with the posters of food items)
    Finland - another metal band, though a different style than Lordi was
    Bosnia & Herzegovina - sorta .. folk pop? Some will find it odd, but I liked it. I think some find find it to be a slow starter.
    Azerbaijan - The song's not bad, heavy rock pop. The guy's falsetto at the front is a bit startling. I like the video concept of angel vs demon

    Belarus - another straight-up good rock song.
    Bulgaria - I wasn't sure when it started, but it won me over as it went through

    It's not that the others are bad, but it'd be a long, long post if I commented on all of them.
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    Didn't even know this existed. Thanks so much for this. Awesome songs!
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    I've managed to spread out my pain a bit, and now I have the Icelandic entry for 2008 in my head, but I also took the time to find Ukraine's 2004 winning entry with Ruslana singing it. Very energetic, good song but what really put them over the top was some great dancing.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x7CatMaINE

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    After doing some digging to see if it was on an album, I quickly found that "Wild Dances" (the song mentioned in my previous post) is on the GTA 4 soundtrack on Vladivostok FM. Of course it can be purchased online in Amazon's DRM-free MP3 store individually.

    Sweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munden View Post
    Having been a watch of BBC for many long years thanks to PBS here in the States, I'm well-familiar with Eurovision. For those that aren't, it's a pop music competition. Each country chooses a band, usually through smaller voting competitions, to send to the main competition. It's 'pop' music in the truest form. I don't know for sure, but it seems that since Lordi (monster metal band) won 2 years ago, there's been a wider range of song styles.
    The contest is calles Eurovision Song Contest. Eurovision, or The Eurovision Network (founded 1954 in Geneva) is an institution, which is part of the European Broadcasting Union. It was established with the intention of exchanging TV and radio programmes and TV news footage (via the daily Eurovision news exchange - EVN).

    Not only confined to Europe, Eurovision currently encompasses 75 TV and radio stations located in 54 countries of Europe, North Africa and the Middle East. Furthermore, there are 61 associated stations in Europe, Africa, America, Asia and Oceania.

    Official Eurovision TV broadcasts can be recognised by the Eurovision logo and the beginning of Marc-Antoine Charpentier's Te Deum. The first official broadcast was transmitted on June 6, 1954. It showed the Narzissenfest in Montreux.

    Popular broadcasts are the annual Eurovision Song Contest (which has been broadcast since 1956), the annual papal blessing 'Urbi et Orbi', the Vienna New Year's Concert, the Palio in Siena and major European sports events. It is not widely known that affiliated stations provided footage of current events for each other within the scope of the Eurovision News Exchange programme (EVN).

    The Eurovision Network is not affiliated with the European Union.

    (From Wikipedia)

    More about this contest:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurovision_Song_Contest

    I have found some videos of songs participating in this contest.

    Beginning 1957 with the danish song by Gustav Winckler and Birthe Wilcke with the song Skibet skal sejle i nat (The Ship Is Leaving Tonight). It was the favorite to win but... at the end of the song they kissed eachother and that was too much for most countries. Instead they ended up 3rd.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQs54wA2-SA

    1967: Sandie Shaw for the UK with Puppet on a string (winner) performing barefooted. For some also too weird:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRgAZL2Oz44

    1979: Dschinghis Khan with Dschinghis Khan for Germany. First act in costumes.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhqQcYYyY7I

    1998: Guildo Horn for Germany with Guildo hat euch lieb (Guildo likes you):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3q7Y3fgTIc

    Dana International for Israel with Diva (winner). Dana is a transsexual.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv83u7-mNWQ

    2000: Stefan Raab for Germany with Wadde Hadde Dudde Da?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFJaRzv-beI

    2007: DQ for Denmark (semifinal) with Drama Queen. DQ is a drag artist:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy1fdc3H6xs

    And here all winners from 1956 to 2007:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xb9LXuROGI
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbk4pxXj_P0

    Becomming stars after Eurovision Song Contest:

    1974: ABBA for Sweden with Waterloo:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oMimCa6Hd0

    1988: Celine Dion for Switzerland with Ne partez pas sans moi:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pEYw8PcBas
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    That's a good point to make about the name. I kept seeing it spelled out or just abbreviated 'ESC', but didn't know the very shortened version was not actually correct. I also didn't know they'd started to include Northern Africa. I thought some of the countries to the east were questionably not really part of the European continent, but hadn't thought about it much. That's all good info!

    I'd forgotten about "Drama Queen". I remember blogs making a deal about that song and then the "Dancing" one from Ukraine. I liked DQ much more than "Dancing". The two songs from the Ukraine, "Wild Dances" and "Dancing", being just three years apart demonstrates how wildly the styles can vary I guess.

    Here's the fictional-named "Verka Serduchka" singing:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw_6kcTE_5w

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    Dschingis Khan... love them!

    Right now i'm really obsessed with and can't get this song out of my head: This is my life (The Iceland entry)..
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    Well, congrats to sladys, or to Denmark at least. I've been watching the streaming when they put up the 'replay' online. I think the second semi-final was a little more widely varied in quality than the first night.

    For my own preference, I liked the Cyprus song/performance more than the Ukraine's, but with no vote there's not a lot I can do.

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    So now that it's over, I was pleased to see how well Turkey and Azerbaijan did, but was a bit surprised at how far down the list that Iceland was.

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    ...and Germany!

    Not my kind of stuff, anyways

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    I was a bit sad that Dustin the Turkey(Irish Entry) didn't get through

    Oh Well, At least the song that won wasn't too bad.
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    Interesting is to see the results of the 4 seeded countries Germany, Spain, France and united Kingdom.

    It all began 1996 with a qualification and Germany didn't qualify. They ended 24th. Only the first 22 qualified.
    That wasn't good for Germany, one of the biggest sponsors for Eurovision. Soi from 1997 the 4 above mentioned were allways in the final no matter what result they ended. All other countries had to qualify.

    Here are the results from 1996 to 2008 for the 4 countries. Mostly they had very bad results in their eyes.

    Seeded countries result from 1990-2007:

    Germany:
    1996: Not qualified, ended 24th. in the pre qualification
    1997: 18
    1998: 7
    1999: 3
    2000: 5
    2001: 8
    2002: 21
    2003: 12
    2004: 8
    2005: 24
    2006: 15
    2007: 19
    2008: 23

    France:
    1996: 19
    1997: 7
    1998: 24
    1999: 19
    2000: 23
    2001: 4
    2002: 5
    2003: 18
    2004: 15
    2005: 23
    2006: 22
    2007: 22
    2008: 18

    United Kingdom:
    1996: 8
    1997: 1
    1998: 2
    1999: 12
    2000: 16
    2001: 15
    2002: 3
    2003: 26
    2004: 16
    2005: 22
    2006: 19
    2007: 23
    2008: 25

    Spain:
    1990: 5
    1991: 4
    1992: 14
    1993: 11
    1994: 18
    1995: 2
    1996: 20
    1997: 6
    1998: 16
    1999: 23
    2000: 18
    2001: 6
    2002: 7
    2003: 8
    2004: 10
    2005: 21
    2006: 21
    2007: 20
    2008: 16

    Since 1990 when new east-european countries began to participate the 4 seeded countries began to talk about the mafia from the east giving each other top votes. But in fact, it's not new. It has been that way since the very beginning.

    The scandinavian countries voted for each other. Germany gave top votes to Austria and Switzerland. France to Spain or Belgium. And so on.

    But in fact, who wants to vote for countries that doesn't have to qualify no matter what. I was one of those who voted for the danish jury by SMS.

    I voted for Russia, and they won.

    Here it took place at the Belgrade Arena:
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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    ...and Germany!

    Not my kind of stuff, anyways
    yah, though watching it on a TV show makes most of it at least 'ok' since I'm not paying for it. It's just cheesy fun.

    Dima's song was ok at least, yeah. I wouldn't have voted for it, but I'm not a member of his apparent legion of fans. They say he's a massively popular figure over in Russia and bordering countries. I had to give him credit for standing in his bare feet on that ice rink for a while. I was really holding out hope for Turkey winning until the massive string of Russia/Armenia/Greece votes.

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    It seems to mostly be about catchy tunes, really. In the end, if it was about the song, they would've stuck with a jury or set of judges and not taken telephone votes.

    Anyway, they apparently introduced a new hybrid point system with 50% being phone votes and 50% being a panel of 5 judges from each country.

    http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?id=1629

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