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    After October 1, 2006, it will be against the law to distribute this GIS dataset. So please make sure it is deleted by then.

    Hope you like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Hornblower
    That is no where close to a complete GIS. That is SecNav overlays....
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    The National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) will remove DAFIF™ and FLIP data from the NGA public web site on October 1, 2006. Department of Defense (DoD) customers will be able to access DAFIF™ and FLIP information after October 1, 2006 by accessing the NGA’s web site on the NIPRNet. The NGA NIPRNet site, in accordance with a number of DoD directives, will be Public Key Enabled (PKE); meaning that the site will be encrypted using the DoD Public Key Infrastructure (PKI).

    DoD PKI on the NIPRNet will provide the required security that will allow NGA to continue to make DAFIF™ and FLIP data available.

    Reasons for choosing the PKE-NIPRNet network to host FLIP and DAFIF™ data:
    • Many countries have copyrighted the information NGA makes available as DAFIF™ and FLIP data. In the past NGA has released that information to the public at no charge effectively nullifying the copyright. To continue to receive that foreign information NGA must restrict access to only DoD customers.
    • There is currently NO other alternative infrastructure at NGA to host this data which provides the required protection for the data. A “reverse domain lookup” to restrict access to .mil and .gov networks does not provide sufficient safeguards for the data.
    • PKI offers higher identity-assurance and removes the need for passwords. Reference DoD’s PKE Instruction 8520.
    • Using the NIPRNet coincides with a pre-existing plan to host all unclassified NGA data on that network.
    • Users now receiving DAFIF™ and FLIP data on CDs/DVDs from the Defense Logistics Agency (DLA) will not experience any changes.

    Other Services/Agencies may choose to re-host DAFIF™ and FLIP data on their own protected sites. However, after existing sites are public-key enabled (e.g. no more usernames and passwords), it is suggested that links be provided to avoid the cost of re-hosting the same data. In addition the Service/Agency that does choose to re-host must ensure that:
    • The data is not available to the public, and
    • the data is kept current


    NGA’s, foreign, data co-producers currently download/utilize DAFIF™ and FLIP data from the NGA public web site. These entities will not be allowed access to the data after October 1, 2006 until they have established a Memorandum of Agreement (MOA) with NGA’s Office of International and Policy (OIP). The MOA will indicate the new method of obtaining the DAFIF™ and FLIP data after October 1, 2006

    - https://164.214.2.62/products/digita...nformation.doc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Hornblower
    and you disabled the link. Nice...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zothip
    That is no where close to a complete GIS. That is SecNav overlays....
    ...including the air spaces as 3D-models
    and you disabled the link. Nice...
    ...because it's already in the database, in the file mentioned above

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Hornblower
    ...including the air spaces as 3D-models

    ...because it's already in the database, in the file mentioned above
    Believe me, I looked at what it was. It was information formed from Sec Nav Charts (which do not include everything). The GIS I uses was DAFIF and MUST include EVERYTHING.

    That is why it will not be availible to the public after October. If you don't want the file then fine....
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