Populations

[War_Peace]

"Melbourne is the capital and largest city of the state of Victoria, and the second largest city in Australia (after Sydney), with a population of 3,600,650 in the Melbourne metropolitan area (June 2004) and 61,670 in the City of Melbourne" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melbourne

Wouldn't it be more sensible to set the city value of Melborne as 3,600,650 rather than 61,670??

I mean, Sydney would be 146,297 with this point of view...

"With a metropolitan area population of 4.3(3,879,400 in game) million and a population of approximately 146,297 people in the city proper (known as the "City of Sydney"), the Sydney metropolis is the larger of the two main financial, transport, trade and cultural centres of Australia"

There are a few more cities like so...

[Corporal]

I'd say go with the metropolitain area. You wouldn't judge the population of New York City just by the population of Manhattan or Brooklyn now would you?

[War_Peace]

You are saying what I am saying and don't even know it! How nice is that?!

In fact, I made some more research and saw that some values are the highest number possible and some of them are smallest number possible. I say, let's edit them in the way that they will take the max number available.

4,300,000 for Sydney
3,600,650 for Melbourne(61,670 in game!!)
17,110,000 for Shanghai
14,560,000 for Beijing (this is the same in the game)
14,000,000 for Tehran
19,190,115 for New York
5,800,000 for Boston (589,141 in game!!)
and so on...

[Mickey]

For the sake of consistency, I've tried to always use the city proper numbers, not the metro area numbers. If I'm off on any from that angle, please point them out and I'll fix them.

[War_Peace]

I am not saying do it now but when u have time(just changing that number wouldn't take that much of a time) change all those values using the largest numbers provided by wikipedia...
There are 92 cities right now and it would be fair to check them and edit them in time...
"Not talking about metro population or city proper, it would be good to use the largest numbers available. Some may belong to year 2000 and others may be from '05 but again, the largest numbers would be easy to catch and fun to use..."

[Corporal]

Originally Posted by Mickey

For the sake of consistency, I've tried to always use the city proper numbers, not the metro area numbers. If I'm off on any from that angle, please point them out and I'll fix them.

Well the thing is, "metro area" includes all of the people that have congregated around the city to make a living, including its suburbs. "City proper" is just some historical/arbitrary boundary for the city, and may or may not be where most of the people in the city live. For example, Rio de Janeiro has a city proper population of 6,150,000 [same as in-game] and a metro area of 10-13 million because a lot of poor people decided to move to the city and ended up stuck in slums that were within the city proper boundaries, whereas Boston's city proper is 589,141 with a metro area of 5.8 million because the people who live there are better off and can afford to live in suburbs outside of the city proper.

Though, the best way to value cities would be some kind of algorithm that compares how rich the city is overall to the population of the city [thus, L.A. should be more valuable than Delhi, India in this way] - Kind of like culture in Civ3, except culture is a bit more difficult to determine. Most cities could be ranked in this way fairly easily if the ranks were "Poor, Average, Rich". Still quite a bit of research involved though.

[War_Peace]

Solution is simple,
You have 2 options to choose:
1.) Go with the easy way and use the largest numbers available in wiki...
2.) Go with the hard and complicated way and use that algorithm thang :P

Either way, the result will be good...

[Corporal]

Also, capital cities should be worth a little bit more.

[tupac_shakur]

my city is in Wikipedia
Catanduva is a municipality in the state of São Paulo in Brazil. Its coordinates are 21°08′16″ S 48°58′22″ W. The population in 2004 is 113,578 and the area is 2935.6 km² The elevation is 503 m. It is all correct

[Volli82]

i dont understand the number of paris, in game 2.142.800. but paris is much more bigger than berlin. paris is nearly as big as london.

[Corporal]

Originally Posted by Volli82

i dont understand the number of paris, in game 2.142.800. but paris is much more bigger than berlin. paris is nearly as big as london.

According to Wikipedia, these are the populations for metropolitan areas and city propers:

Paris, France - 11,174,743 [2,125,246 city proper]
London, UK - 7,421,228 [No info on metropolitan area vs. city proper]
Berlin, Germany - 3,390,444 [No info on metropolitan area vs. city proper]

So, it'll be a bit iffy for cities where there's no info on whether their populations are for the city proper or metro area. But since most cities' importance and populations are determined by the metro area rather than the city proper, we should go by that instead. [Boston being repeated as a good example; its city proper alone is 589,141 - Twice as much as the metro area of my current residence of Roanoke, Virginia; but obviously many times more important than that overall.]

[Mickey]

Ok, all of the cities mentioned in this thread have been updated with their metro numbers rather than just city proper. If you have others, please post them in here and I'll get them updated.

[Corporal]

Thank you, good sir ^_^

Edit: whoa them's some big anime eyes. @_@

Edit2: Also, LA's numbers should be changed to reflect those of Boston's. New York's too: 17,545,623 and 22 million, respectively.

You may have to change the algorithm for city width a bit later...

[tukamotton]

This city reach 18,131,000 Pop. ( http://worldatlas.com/citypops.htm ) including metropolitan area.

Tokyo would be the #1 with 28,025,000

[Corporal]

The population you're referring to for Tokyo is the "megacity" from Tokyo to Osaka, which is analogous to the megacity area from Boston to Washington, D.C. Tokyo's actual metro population is 12 million people, the same as in-game.