what of this "NILLA"

rod · 09-14-2005, 01:26 AM

dis' nilla guy is real pain in the *ss I'm a noob

(ouch) and I had the misfortune of attacking nilla with umm.. 900 troopsya i know but honestly! 169,000 troops in one army! OMG!

I think i'll stay away from him for awhile

Lukepuuk · 09-14-2005, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by rod

dis' nilla guy is real pain in the *ss I'm a noob

(ouch) and I had the misfortune of attacking nilla with umm.. 900 troopsya i know but honestly! 169,000 troops in one army! OMG!

I think i'll stay away from him for awhile

LOL

He must be one great 'script' writer.
As i said in another topic today.
At the new code entry for the jewels it might be better to put the letters back instead of numbers only...and turn them around in random. Some 90 degrees and some 45 and put some more stripes in it.
Should make it near to impossible to cheat anymore.

rod · 09-14-2005, 01:34 AM

ya I read that thread. and I think he must be scripting cuz he's the top player in the players list

rasqual · 09-14-2005, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Lukepuuk

LOL

He must be one great 'script' writer.
As i said in another topic today.
At the new code entry for the jewels it might be better to put the letters back instead of numbers only...and turn them around in random. Some 90 degrees and some 45 and put some more stripes in it.
Should make it near to impossible to cheat anymore.

No. It merely reduces the number of scripters. You can roll your own OCR when the pattern's predictable.

Mickey, you won't defeat it without more variable orthography, not to mention luminance and hue variation. Obfuscation's a heckuva challenge.

Mickey · 09-14-2005, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by rasqual

...hue variation...

Such as it has now?

Quote:

Obfuscation's a heckuva challenge.

Yes indeed. Think of all of the cool stuff I could be building if I didn't have to deal with this garbage...

rasqual · 09-14-2005, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mickey

Such as it has now?

Yes indeed. Think of all of the cool stuff I could be building if I didn't have to deal with this garbage...

Aack! My eyes!

Hey, dude. at this point, how about stringing brief clips together and just downloading wav files that read the numbers? You know, the:

<BGSOUND SRC="dude!.wav">

thing? Again, build the file on the server side, and include some random clip ellision before concatenation stuff, so MD5 couldn't be done on a full enumeration of permutations (it wouldn't take anything to build a library of such, if you didn't do this, and exploit that to script it).

Now, here's the trick. You do this ON TOP OF the embedded-in-CDATA method I've suggested a couple times. So in the GE UI, you click one of a half-dozen random links, AND then the user waits for a wav, and enters what's read in the text box and sends.

Eh?

You could even offer words, not just characters. Seriously.

And if you want to be ADA compliant, you offer an option for either way.

Brendo · 09-14-2005, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by rasqual

Aack! My eyes!

Atleast it is easier to see then black and white with lines and dots.

Why is Nilla abandoning all his posts?!?!?!?

Look at all those unoccupied cities

Lukepuuk · 09-14-2005, 01:02 PM

Way better.
For me it's even better to see and i predict it's a little harder for scripters.

Corporal · 09-15-2005, 01:32 AM

I sometimes have a hard time distinguishing 1's and 7's and 3's and 8's in the new verification thingy. =|

Mickey · 09-15-2005, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Corporal

I sometimes have a hard time distinguishing 1's and 7's and 3's and 8's in the new verification thingy. =|

Yeah, me too. Of course, that means it's hard for OCR systems to distinguish them too.

I'll keep tweaking it until I find a good balance.

Nilla · 09-15-2005, 06:11 AM

larger image

pro's: easier to read, harder to ocr(kinda)

con's: more bandwidth.

anthonywitt · 09-15-2005, 07:54 AM

Nilla what do you men by "kinda". You been cheating?

anthonywitt · 09-15-2005, 07:58 AM

I like the new "verification thingy" it keeps "kinda" from......The colors are nice.

Brendo · 09-15-2005, 07:58 AM

Doesn't a higher dpi make ocr programs really slow - well take them longer anyway. Does a higher dpi also equal a bigger picture.

09-14-2005, 01:26 AM	#1
rod Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 17	what of this "NILLA" dis' nilla guy is real pain in the ss I'm a noob (ouch) and I had the misfortune of attacking nilla with umm.. 900 troopsya i know but honestly! 169,000 troops in one army! OMG! I think i'll stay away from him for awhile Last edited by rod; 09-14-2005 at 01:31 AM.*

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anthonywitt Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 356	"verification thingy" I like the new "verification thingy" it keeps "kinda" from......The colors are nice.

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09-14-2005, 01:34 AM	#3
rod Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 17	ya I read that thread. and I think he must be scripting cuz he's the top player in the players list

09-14-2005, 01:02 PM	#8
Lukepuuk Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 847	Way better. For me it's even better to see and i predict it's a little harder for scripters.

09-15-2005, 01:32 AM	#9
Corporal Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 83	I sometimes have a hard time distinguishing 1's and 7's and 3's and 8's in the new verification thingy. =\|

09-15-2005, 06:11 AM	#11
Nilla Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8	larger image pro's: easier to read, harder to ocr(kinda) con's: more bandwidth.

09-15-2005, 07:54 AM	#12
anthonywitt Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 356	Nilla what do you men by "kinda". You been cheating?

09-15-2005, 07:58 AM	#14
Brendo Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia (27°22'34.69"S, 152°59'18.54"E) Posts: 96	Doesn't a higher dpi make ocr programs really slow - well take them longer anyway. Does a higher dpi also equal a bigger picture.