Microsoft's attempt at GE

fishbne2 · 07-25-2005, 01:40 AM

http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive...ual_ear_2.html

felipeboralli · 07-25-2005, 03:10 AM

when Microsoft attempts to do something, at least they do it very well, trying to compete with the others. This Virtual Earth seems that will be similar to Google earth. Little diferences between them that will decide which one will be mostly used.
more, while Google don´t even say in their about some of their products, (Orkut, Gmail, GoogleEarth) in their main pages, MS will use it´s entire power of auto-advertisment (Hotmail, MSN, their homesite, Windows Update) to release it.

hypeserver · 07-25-2005, 03:15 AM

sorry, but this was already posted a few days ago.

felipeboralli · 07-25-2005, 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hypeserver

sorry, but this was already posted a few days ago.

my posting or his was posted some days ago...

fishbne2 · 07-25-2005, 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by felipeboralli

when Microsoft attempts to do something, at least they do it very well, trying to compete with the others. This Virtual Earth seems that will be similar to Google earth. Little diferences between them that will decide which one will be mostly used.
more, while Google don´t even say in their about some of their products, (Orkut, Gmail, GoogleEarth) in their main pages, MS will use it´s entire power of auto-advertisment (Hotmail, MSN, their homesite, Windows Update) to release it.

I'm sorry but you have to be out of your mind. Windows is constantly broken and fixes take months. IE is a security nightmare which is only now being overhauled because of Firefox. And MS will probably charge users just to look at the images that are free with GE. Finally, when is MS going to have an original thought.

As far as advertising, word of mouth seems to be much more effective today on the internet, especially with the on set of blogs, than any advertising and it free. Consider that I learned about GE and the MS venture both through blogs.

EDIT: And on closer look I noticed that your are from Brasil, who is on the cutting edge of universal Linux use, something that you should be proud of and also the US should take notice of.

fishbne2 · 07-25-2005, 01:20 PM

link for the article

splatcat · 07-25-2005, 04:49 PM

I've just been messing around with Virtual earth and I'm gonna stick with GE. I like the animation of GE and the fact that it is on my desktop. I doubt there will be much competition here. It's like comparing a hyundai to Jag.

Steeefan · 07-25-2005, 04:59 PM

I actually thought that MSVE would also be a program you had to d/l and install but since it's only web based and i actually like GE better, I'll also stick with it.

grav8e · 07-25-2005, 05:44 PM

One advantage...

This one at least can find my address. Neither Google Maps nor Google Earth can locate my home address.

You hear THAT Google?!?!?!?! You've got work to do!!!!

Steeefan · 07-25-2005, 07:37 PM

Let's compare how both GE and MSNVE show the Apple HQ to us...
MSN Virtual Earth
Google Earth

Appletom · 07-25-2005, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steeefan

Let's compare how both GE and MSNVE show the Apple HQ to us...
MSN Virtual Earth
Google Earth

I think we have a very clear winner here.

felipeboralli · 07-25-2005, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishbne2

I'm sorry but you have to be out of your mind. Windows is constantly broken and fixes take months. IE is a security nightmare which is only now being overhauled because of Firefox. And MS will probably charge users just to look at the images that are free with GE. Finally, when is MS going to have an original thought.

As far as advertising, word of mouth seems to be much more effective today on the internet, especially with the on set of blogs, than any advertising and it free. Consider that I learned about GE and the MS venture both through blogs.

EDIT: And on closer look I noticed that your are from Brasil, who is on the cutting edge of universal Linux use, something that you should be proud of and also the US should take notice of.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steeefan

I actually thought that MSVE would also be a program you had to d/l and install but since it's only web based and i actually like GE better, I'll also stick with it.

I´m not for MS, neither against Linux, as you may think (most of the servers I run/manage/administrate are either Debian or OpenBSD).
Like Steeefan, i also thought that it would be a program, instead of being a webs based, which is user un-friendly, and also, I'll stick with GE and GEH.

What i said if MS attemps to do something, usually it is a good approach, like the Project Codenamed Acryllic, an opposite for Photoshop; because they won´t use the Microsoft logo in a very bad product.

I don´t want to start a flame war in this post about personal opinions on MS, it was just my opinion about the quality of MSVE.

felipeboralli · 07-25-2005, 09:42 PM

To compare GE with MSVE isn´t fair play. It´s obvious that GE wins, by a large distance. However, if you compare Google Maps with MSVE, the difference is tiny, and the winner does it by a nose, whoever the winner is. They are very similar

Steeefan · 07-25-2005, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by felipeboralli

To compare GE with MSVE isn´t fair play. It´s obvious that GE wins, by a large distance. However, if you compare Google Maps with MSVE, the difference is tiny, and the winner does it by a nose, whoever the winner is. They are very similar

Sure, I agree on this one. A mistake I made some posts above, there should be 'Google Maps' instead of 'Google Earth' but I think everyone knows what I meant there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by felipeboralli

What i said if MS attemps to do something, usually it is a good approach, like the Project Codenamed Acryllic, an opposite for Photoshop; because they won´t use the Microsoft logo in a very bad product.

I also agree to this point here. MS is certainly not making bad products. Sure, Windows and IExplore both have loads of flaws but never-the-less I still think that they are both great products. Honestly, where were we w/o MS?
I'm also not against Linux or Apple, absolutely not.

fishbne2 · 07-26-2005, 02:15 AM

we could debate the merits/flaws of MS till the cows come home, however, I think we can all agree that as of now GE is much better option.

07-25-2005, 01:40 AM	#1
fishbne2 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hopedale, MA Posts: 38	Microsoft's attempt at GE http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive...ual_ear_2.html

07-25-2005, 03:10 AM	#2
felipeboralli Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Brazil Posts: 106	when Microsoft attempts to do something, at least they do it very well, trying to compete with the others. This Virtual Earth seems that will be similar to Google earth. Little diferences between them that will decide which one will be mostly used. more, while Google don´t even say in their about some of their products, (Orkut, Gmail, GoogleEarth) in their main pages, MS will use it´s entire power of auto-advertisment (Hotmail, MSN, their homesite, Windows Update) to release it. __________________ "Surfing on the waves of sound..."

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fishbne2 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hopedale, MA Posts: 38	PC World compares both link for the article

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splatcat Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 9	Booo I've just been messing around with Virtual earth and I'm gonna stick with GE. I like the animation of GE and the fact that it is on my desktop. I doubt there will be much competition here. It's like comparing a hyundai to Jag.

07-25-2005, 04:59 PM	#8
Steeefan Lost In Johansson Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: 49° 54' 60.00"N, 7° 3' 60.00"E Posts: 311	I actually thought that MSVE would also be a program you had to d/l and install but since it's only web based and i actually like GE better, I'll also stick with it. __________________ -Steeefan To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

07-25-2005, 05:44 PM	#9
grav8e Super-ish Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 107	One advantage... This one at least can find my address. Neither Google Maps nor Google Earth can locate my home address. You hear THAT Google?!?!?!?! You've got work to do!!!!

07-25-2005, 07:37 PM	#10
Steeefan Lost In Johansson Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: 49° 54' 60.00"N, 7° 3' 60.00"E Posts: 311	Let's compare how both GE and MSNVE show the Apple HQ to us... MSN Virtual Earth Google Earth __________________ -Steeefan To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

07-25-2005, 09:42 PM	#13
felipeboralli Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Brazil Posts: 106	To compare GE with MSVE isn´t fair play. It´s obvious that GE wins, by a large distance. However, if you compare Google Maps with MSVE, the difference is tiny, and the winner does it by a nose, whoever the winner is. They are very similar __________________ "Surfing on the waves of sound..."

07-26-2005, 02:15 AM	#15
fishbne2 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hopedale, MA Posts: 38	letting the flame die we could debate the merits/flaws of MS till the cows come home, however, I think we can all agree that as of now GE is much better option.

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